. >> president obama and the new republican senatorrom tex, ted cruz. contrary to what you have heard, we did not face up to an economic crisis. all they did was go through another political crisis. but try to pick the winners and losers of the deal. how about the taxpayers. how do they fair? >> rich people who make more than $400,000 will pay more. i suppose the middle class will be somewhat on touched but because of the payroll holiday expiring, middle-class people will be paying more money to. everyone lost and that's the truth. you do this and this goes on with increasing intensity and everyone loses in the end. >> winners and losers? >> the real problem is we have this exploding debt and we are adding $1 trillion per year an it is mpletely unprecented. there's no change in sight. this is the debt ceiling debate of july and august 2011 which was supposed to come to grips with spending and our debt. it was punted off until this january. what came out was another probably as a result of the next one. we will come out with everything deferred. we are n